Folks, this is newly-found audio confirming Obama's belief in "spreading the wealth around" which he said two weeks ago, and which Joe Biden said a couple days ago was not what Obama meant, but he did mean it. It was not a slip of the tongue. It reflects a deeply held view and possibly his intentions for future redistribution, taking money from people who have more than he thinks they need and giving it to those, in his words, who benefited from the Civil Rights Movement but came short of benefiting from "redistributed wealth."
In other words, to Obama taxes are not a way for self-governed people to collect money needed to operate government; taxes are also a means by which the federal government can take from those who "have" and give to those who "have not." Or as Karl Marx said it, "From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs." How will redistribution happen? Easy. By giving even more "tax refunds" to people who don't pay taxes at all. It's called the EITC, and how to collect this unearned money is explained by Acorn in a newsletter at this link. That link explains the millions of uncollected dollars of "redistributed wealth" in Virginia alone, and this is BEFORE Obama's new plans. Under Obama, it's been estimated that 60 Billion in new "redistributed EITC wealth" will be dispensed annually to people who pay no taxes.
Yes, the same ACORN that tells its constituency how too maximize their entitlements through the EITC in their newsletter is the same ACORN Obama paid over $800,000 to during the 2008 primaries to help "get out the vote" for him, the same ACORN associated with voter fraud, that submitted 1.3 million new voters registrations 400,000 of them were invalid fraudulent, including the type of fraud in this video and the one below (added overnight Tuesday):
But since ACORN's nationwide voter registration fraud has been addressed by the media, let's move back to this current audio tape that has not.
These statements by Obama should prompt a discussion of the ideas expressed in this radio interview, which was conducted during his closest (and then very current) ties with "thinkers" like Bill Ayers who share such views. Those circles of influence represent a back-door approach to "socialism." Obama knows the unpopularity of that word, but he should at least admit that his notion of federal REDISTRIBUTION fits the bill. I'm confident that, if asked to explain these statements, he will smooth it all out for us, but will it even come up? And if so, does America know how to discuss basic differences in ideology and where they eventually lead? It may very well be that America is eager for bigger government and greater dependence, but let's at least talk about it first.
UPDATE Thursday evening three days later: Here's what I mean by THE SHOE, THE DROP, and WEARING IT WITH STYLE. Obama not only laughs at the notion that his ideology reflects socialism more than it does the free enterprise system that built this country, he calls people who disagree with him on the topic SELFISH.
[Hat tip to SQ in the comments section above.]
I asked a week ago ..."if a shoe drops in a media news room and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?" A few days before, newly found footage of Nation of Islam leader, Farrakahn, proclimed Obama as Messiah. Not a sound in the newsrooms. Then last week, Biden gave his "dooms day" remarks, and the media swept that long speech under the rug. I think this audio tape is another "shoe." In his own thoughtful voice, Obama is explaining a past wrong that he thinks can still be righted. The "we need to redistribute wealth" shoe has dropped again. Now listen with me to see if it makes a sound.
While you're listening, see if this story about a lynched Sarah Palin in Hollywood gets any "double standard" notice. Regardless of who's in the noose, "hate crimes" are not allowed under "free speech," but it's only Sarah Palin so the liberals will just laugh.
Now watch this updated video link here [posted by the LA Times Tuesday. Will it hit the networks as it would if it were about Obama?]. The new video directly mentions the double standard, but the Palin-hating crowd simply doesn't care and the police say "Hey, relax, it's Halloween." Which of course, may make it tempting (God forbid) for someone to test the double standard by putting a similar display up across the street with the Democrat candidate, but this, of course, would cause mayhem in L.A and from sea to shining sea, the same kind of mayhem we can expect if "Dewey Defeats Truman" is held up by McCain Wednesday morning. You tell me which side will handle defeat more civilly. [UPDATE Thursday, two days later: Two arrested for hanging an Obama effigy in Kentucky. The West Hollywood display of Palin suddenly disappeared... no arrests were made. I'm glad both despicable statements were removed. Doubel standard or not, may such hateful stupidity never rise again.]
I know even some of my liberal friends may wince at the blatant double standard that helped usher in the "age of Obama" (to borrow from debate moderator, Gwen Ifil's book title). Here is a rare positive take on this lynched woman written by the previous editor of MS. Magazine. I am more impressed and amazed by Governor Palin's thick skin every day. Everything she stands for raises the hackles on liberals' necks, but she remains as steadfast and gracious as any public figure I've ever seen.
Update: Monday PM "The Obama campaign is responding by sending around a report from Politico in which Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law professor who is advising Obama, downplays the remarks as law professor-speak." Oh, he was just talking the way professors do with students about "ideas" and such. Professors do that. And when he recently said it to Joe the Plumber, he must have felt like he was a professor again. The McCain camp had this to say, "...his basic goal is taking money away from people who work for it and giving it to people who Barack Obama believes deserve it. Europeans call it socialism, Americans call it welfare, and Barack Obama calls it change."
What's that bump under the rug? Just another shoe that dropped in a newsroom... "Never mind, Mr. President, we'll get that for you. Just forget it even came up. Shame on them rascally Republicans for quoting you."
UPDATE Tuesday evening: This Op-Ed in the Washington Times may help prompt the kind of discussion the notions of "spreading the wealth" and "redistribution" deserve. Here are some of Wesley Pruden's thoughts:
"The interview explains a lot, beginning with the attempt...to destroy Joe the Plumber and shut down discussion of the implications of what the candidate said....Mr. Obama is a gifted politician, with the smarts to understand that this could be the "game-changer" that leaves his campaign, almost picture-perfect until now, in ruins. He understands that he has to fly under the radar for now. That's why his campaign apparatus moves swiftly to dismiss questions about the Obama paper trail, such as it is, and to crush anyone bold and foolish enough to inquire into the real Barack Obama.
Joe the Plumber learned the hard way what happens to such questioners, and when a television reporter in Florida asked Joe Biden whether his running mate is a Marxist economist, good old Joe, usually eager to talk about everything, acted as if the interviewer had accused him of serial killing or child molesting. Some things just aren't to be talked about, not now. Not Barack Obama's radical notions about redistributing the wealth - which is, after all, the essence of Marxism. Not about how he intends to replace fundamental American values with values that most Americans, if they knew about them, would regard as alien and hostile.... To redistribute wealth, you first have to confiscate it from those who earned it with hard work, and the way to do that is with confiscatory taxes. Then you give it to those who didn't earn it....He clearly thinks the Constitution was a "tragedy," that the men who wrote it were not the revolutionary heroes plain Americans regard them to be, and their work must be corrected by the surviving radicals of the '60s and their progeny. Anyone who listens to this interview...understands why Michelle Obama was never proud of her country until she thought the opportunity was at hand to destroy the country to save it, and why Barack Obama could spend 20 years comfortably listening to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright exhort God to damn America."
Hearing Obama's veiw of the Supreme Court, is there any doubt as to the kind of activism he will promote as he fills the many Federal Court vacancies the Democrats have forced to go unfilled for 8 years? If... and I'm still saying "IF" he is elected.
Meanwhile watch the wave of messianic inevitability wash over the earth. As I said a few weeks ago, it seems as if Obama is not running for President of the United States but for President of the World. What are the implications of borrowing the words from "The Lord's Prayer" in this Kenyan raggae hit, "Obama Be Thy Name"?
7 good comments below...
1 comment:
Nancy said...
Oh well, "our" guts have been telling us this for weeks and slowly the ball of yarn unravels. What will happen with 4 years of unraveling? Only time will tell.
Have a great week!
27/10/08 7:47 AM
Dr.John said...
Well you have made clear what you expect. We will see what happens because I don't think he can be stopped.
PI said...
Nancy,
It is a very sobering thought. Have you ever seen a race proclaimed "won" so early by such a jubilant press? The world will be celebrating next Tuesday night, and then the fun begins.
Dr.John,
I tried to stay away from politics, but I gave way to the temptation to express lingering concerns against all odds.
To me, it's not about who will win anymore. It's about providing a record of how blindly the bandwagon began its trek down a road no one fully understood, but it's a one way street downhill. I think it will take between three and four years for the honeymoon to be over and for people to see what was truly lost in 2008.
Change? We ain't seen nothin' yet. Everything is about to change.
27/10/08 7:25 PM
Anonymous said...
No way should the inner cities have good schools like the suburbs. They don't pay enough taxes to deserve that. Let those disadvantaged kids play basketball as their way out.
28/10/08 4:43 AM
SusieQ said...
Tom, I am just as frustrated as you. And dismayed. I am dismayed by the mainstream news media's derelect of duty. They've been more concerned about Joe the Plumber's child support payments and Sarah Palin's wardrobe than they have been about Obama's relationships with people like Ayers and the Reverend Wright.
I want to know whether or to what extent these relationships reveal Obama's own worldview. I don't think the American people are getting the truth about Obama's worldview. I don't think either that the American people fully understand the many forms that Socialism can take and how it can pose a threat to a society,to our freedoms, and become a drag on society and its economy. I know myself that I do not fully understand and wish there could be more discussion on this subject before we embark on something we may regret later on down the road and be unable to change.
The only places I feel I can go to and get reliable news anymore is Fox news and talk radio. And these sources are being discredited. We may even lose them as a source of news if the Fairness Doctrine is revived.
I appreciate what Anonymous is saying about inner city schools and the deplorable conditions there. I would not want to be trying to raise children in conditions like that where teachers need body guards in the classroom. That is awful. So, why can't we give substantial school vouchers to parents whose children are forced to attend schools like that? At least let some of them out of these prisons of so-called learning.
28/10/08 2:12 PM
PI said...
Anonymous,
Sorry to leave you hanging all day. I was at school where I work. I have spent nearly 30 years teaching or administrating in the high school setting.
First of all thank you for reading here. I hope you have found this a source of seeing how "the other side" thinks without the hatred that has characterized these times.
I can't help but like Obama. I just disagree with him more and more each day. If you read down several posts you'll see that I was very impressed with him for a long time.
When I consider the shaping influences of my life during the first 40 years, I reason that Obama was likewise "shaped" by those in his life--including influential "leaders" in his adopted hometown of Chicago. He chose Chicago; he chose his pastor; he chose whom to rub elbows with to gain access and power there, etc. Those are not things to be ignored, but the media has.
If I thought giving 60 Billion a year would truly fix the problem you mention in inner-city schools, I'd be all for it. But as you know, those inner-city schools already receive more federal funding than their suburban counterparts. They get nearly $12,000 per student. The teachers in Obama's Chicago district are paid better than the teachers in the burbs. (Starting pay is about $20,000 HIGHER than public schools in my area), and rightly so when you consider the conditions there.) If money could solve the problems of public education, I'd be right there with you on this one, but as SQ points out below (and she lives near Chicago), choice to attend a different school is better than pouring money in that failed system.
(If you want to see how Obama spent millions to improve education, study how he and Bill Ayers used their grants on education in his district. You might be surprised.)
Throwing money at problems has been the liberal response for decades--hasn't helped in schools. Giving unearned credit in inner-cities for "affordable housing" also failed and led to the housing collapse at the heart of this melt-down; likewise handing out more money to the poor will not help them become self-sufficient--just more dependent than ever on government. It's the old "give a man a fish" vs. "teach him how to fish" principle. Eventually there must be self investment, personal goals,risk, and hard work put forth on a daily basis. That's true education and the economy.
I could be wrong. Looks like we'll have a chance to see if Obama's "REDISTRIBUTION" works better than the countless misguided efforts well-meaning liberals thought more money could fix.
Again, I thank you for stopping by. Come again and comment freely.
28/10/08 3:47 PM
PI said...
SQ,
We miss you around the blogosphere. So glad you came by to read and visit.
I've been following politics for a long time, and I've never seen what we are witnessing this time. I don't mean Obama. He's pretty phenomenal in many ways--ways that have not won my vote--but I'll give him his due. What I'm talking about is what you mention. What happened to journalism? I used to know it was slanted--but now they’re playing BLIND man's Bluff--they used to cover things just to seem unbiased. But this time it's as if all the networks (but Fox) had a secret meeting and decided to try to make "Homecoming Court" with Obama, as if they all whispered "We'll vote him King and he'll pick us for his court. That'll be way cool."
Fox is truly attempts to hide bias by presenting both sides--I get mad at them for giving equal time to the "spin" already on 100% of all the other networks, but they truly are even-handed. The MSM just can't stand that Fox is not in the tank. "We'll show them; they can't be on homecoming court with Obama and us!"
What's to become of us, ol' friend? Vote and keep on keeping on!
28/10/08 4:46 PM
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